Kōtare Models 1/32 Spitfire Mk.Ia (Mid) Mk.V Mk.I (Early) Bf 109K4

[Sergeï]

On a valide les rendus du cockpit et de la cellule avec Kotare donc ca commence a etre bon pour le K4

j'ai hâte, j'ai hâte !

[fombec6]

Si c'est de la même veine que le Spit, ça promet !

Oui, me laisserait peut-être tenter même si c'est pas mon échelle favorite.

Il y a de beaux camos sur les K4.

J'en connais un autre...

[rafju]

Le manche paraît un peu long et le "coffre" du canon un peu épais, mais bon c'est un renders corrigeable et Vincent K. veille au grain!
Viva Kotare!

[Psychotron]

Ca va etre en effet le premier kit de 109 a avoir le carenage du dossier correct

[Psychotron]

Le manche paraît un peu long et le "coffre" du canon un peu épais, mais bon c'est un renders corrigeable et Vincent K. veille au grain!
Viva Kotare!

Je viens de passer les dimensions a Kotare. Ils regardent car en effet ca n'est pas le manche qui est trop long mais l'epaisseur de la planche repose pieds

[nicownw91]

First test shots Bf 109K-4
Source : kotare models fans fb

[Sergeï]

Bonsoir,
Ben voilà un K qui se présente bien, on dirait !
J'aime bien le travail qu'on devine sur les parois internes et les fonds de train

Par contre je reste dubitatif de l'importance du décrochement entre le capot moteur et le fuselage droit. J'imaginais pas un décrochement aussi important. A moins qu'il s'agisse juste d'une ombre. Tout comme le cône qui semble un peu pointu ... mais une fois de plus, c'est peut-être trompeur.

Quant aux câblages moulés, c'est pas trompeur ! Je suis pas fan mais pour le coup, ça se corrige bien si on veut s'en donner la peine.

Un bien joli jouet en perspective !

[rafju]

je rajouterais la "boîte" du Mk108 qui semble bien "pointue", au "carré", mais c'est peut être une option pour un autre canon??

[Quang]

D’aucuns remarqueraient le traitement quelque peu ‘brutal’ réservé aux détails de surface (surtout les ailes) qui n’est sans rappeler le nouveau A6M2 Zero 1/35 de Border qui m’a fortement déçu.

[Sergeï]

D’aucuns remarqueraient le traitement quelque peu ‘brutal’ réservé aux détails de surface (surtout les ailes) [...]

Le statut "First test shots" des clichés explique peut-être cela ?
Der Rest der Geschichte ist noch nicht bekannt !

[Quang]

Je ne vois pas l’intérêt de montrer des photos de ‘test shots’ si l’on a l’intention de les modifier après coup.

[p51mustang]

Je ne vois pas l’intérêt de montrer des photos de ‘test shots’ si l’on a l’intention de les modifier après coup.

Hello !

Teasing + image de "pro", avec écoute active des clients...

[Sergeï]

Je ne vois pas l’intérêt de montrer des photos de ‘test shots’ si l’on a l’intention de les modifier après coup.

Ben je vois pas l'intérêt de faire un "test" alors ...

[nicownw91]

Source : Mark R, owner de Kōtare
Lien : https://forum.largescaleplanes.com/inde ... k/page/24/

"...
On Monday we all met in Wellington (apart from Radu who is in Ireland) to review the K test shots.

Here is the gospel truth;

The kit designer (Radu) wanted to design the panels flush and just add the fasteners.

Richard with his uncanny knack for seeing things in photos that others miss ( I swear he would have been a photographic analyst during the war) has noted that there are in fact 2 panels that are of thicker gauge aluminium than the rest and which stand slightly proud of the wing surface. He will post some better pics of the runners and some photographic evidence as soon as he has finished the test shot report.

As asked, Radu then designed in very subtle raised panels.

The mould makers, who have generally done an excellent job, have over-egged the pudding a bit on these details and made them stand too proud, as well as the wing tip tapes. BUT, they don't look anywhere near as prominent as the photos made them look.

Now a multi page report goes to the mould company with a request to tone these down, as well as DOZENS of other things that need adjusting, just as is ALWAYS the case with first test shots.

Then we get second test shots and build them, another report goes in.

Then a third, if necessary.

Then a fourth, if necessary......... etc

That's how it works. At some point we realise that perfection, as ever, is impossible and we have to go to print with the mould that we have.

We are optimistic our moulding partner is very good at what they do and we will only need a full set of test shots one more time ( a lot of minor things can be approved electronically) then it's all go. But if it takes more, it will take more.

Once again, thanks for all the feedback, I haven't been able to delve into the tail wheel stuff in detail this week but rest assured Richard is.

Cheers

Mark

PS Unless Richard got an email that I don't know about the nice folks at MBK made their own decision as to which runners to display and which not. We were hoping they would display them ALL so independent photographers would post pics of the wings, but we did not to my knowledge guide their decision at all. "

[Sergeï]

Ah, ben là je vois mieux l'intérêt du test shots alors
Et re -

[nicownw91]

Source : Mark R, owner de Kōtare
Lien : https://forum.largescaleplanes.com/inde ... k/page/28/

"UPDATE

I just reviewed a 49 page (approx) document detailing about 60 changes to be made to the mould after the first test shot.

The document is largely created by Darren Mildenhall with major input from Richard Alexander and minor input from me and our investor partner on this project Mark Grover.

Darren does the most awesome job with large detailed pictures for the moulding company to use to make corrections.

The vast majority of the corrections are in the order of half a mm here and half a mm there, and are the fault of the tooling company, BUT COMPLETLY NORMAL and reasonable for first test shots, in fact much better than average.

The most obvious errors are the "height" of the wingtip tapes and the underwing panels (more on these coming; we know the variety of opinions held on them) which are FAR more prominent than designed, and will be corrected along with everything else.

There are a few new design features we are adding, mainly to aid with alignment and fit. They will likely be at my cost but will be money well spent if the build experience is as smooth as we think it will be.

Mr Brown; Richard is aware of the feature just in front of the first exhaust pipe and has seen it on many Gs but despite looking has not seen it on a K. If you have a pic please share! You can post here or email directly if you would rather keep it private.

The breather tube; similarly Richard has never seen it on a K. He speculates (and I underline speculates) that because the K ejected the shell links etc there was no need for a separate gun gas ejector vent. Again, we are happy to be corrected if you have the evidence.

Nick; of course we watch the message boards, and FB, and your email inbox, and we steam open your snail mail; we are EVERYWHERE; we know what you are thinking and saying....

Just joking; but we do love all the feedback.

Cheers
M

PS One thing we may not be able to satisfy everyone with is the tail wheel. For some reason Richard and I think differently about tail wheels....however it is an ongoing debate so watch this space...."

[rafju]

Dispo à la pré-commande:
https://www.kotare-models.com/products/ ... 2-bf-109k4

[martin]

Bon...commandé. Il tiendra compagnie à celui de Hasegawa.

..et c'est là qu'on voit que l'€ a baissé face au dollar (surtout via Paypal)

[rafju]

Je viens de faire une simu pour la France, ça fini à 135$ avec tracking sans compter douane, TVA....
on verra les pré commandes chez d'autres en Europe?

[Psychotron]

En tout cas, cette fois le carenage des stab horizontaux est correct

[Kslmn]

J'ai vu le montage du Bf 109 d'Eduard dans le forum et la maquette m'a l'air très bien, a-t-on encore besoin d'un autre Bf? Qu'a-t-il de plus par rapport à la maquette d'Eduard?

[rafju]

J'ai vu le montage du Bf 109 d'Eduard dans le forum et la maquette m'a l'air très bien, a-t-on encore besoin d'un autre Bf? Qu'a-t-il de plus par rapport à la maquette d'Eduard?

euh... là sur ce post, on est au 32 et sinon quand est sorti le 1/48 Eduard, on a fait le tour à sa sortie:
viewtopic.php?t=121703

[Psychotron]

J'ai vu le montage du Bf 109 d'Eduard dans le forum et la maquette m'a l'air très bien, a-t-on encore besoin d'un autre Bf? Qu'a-t-il de plus par rapport à la maquette d'Eduard?

Ben deja il est juste de formes, ce qui n'est pas le cas de la maquette Eduard

Il est aussi correct dans les petits details, ce que la maquette Eduard n'est pas non plus

Il est au 32eme

[Sergeï]

Je viens de faire une simu pour la France, ça fini à 135$ avec tracking sans compter douane, TVA....
on verra les pré commandes chez d'autres en Europe?

Je plussois
Sur le site Kotare, le couvre culasse du Mk108 semble moins prêter à caution ... enfin en CAO du moins !

[nicownw91]

Source et lien :
https://forum.largescaleplanes.com/inde ... king-good/

"Hi All,

Thanks to everyone about their comments on our upcoming Hurricane but this is an update on the 109 K-4.

The second test shots arrived from China on Monday. Darren and Richard in Wellington have already been through them and are very impressed.

I received mine yesterday and started building it last night and I’m also very pleased with the refinements and changes made, none of which were major but all of which have been achieved in quick time by our Chinese moulding partner.

We could certainly release these parts now as a kit and I think they would get a good reception but we’re going to go all out for the ever elusive "perfect" model and do one more round of very minor changes which won’t take long.

The decals are almost complete after much debate, the box art is almost done and the profiles are largely done.

The instructions are in my hands. This is the first one I’ve coordinated myself and I admit that my full-time vet job has made this a bit of a slow process but I’ll call for help from Darren and Richard if the instructions are going to delay the project down.

I’m an eternal optimist and I think we’ll be shipping pre-sales by the end of April with distributor shipments following thereafter. Richard would probably say May

On the subject of pre-orders I do apologise for the trouble that people have had with the New Zealand Post website. Like a lot of big organisations their IT people insist they are right no matter how much evidence there is to the contrary. They think their software knows every single address in the world and just because you’ve lived in your house for 30 years doesn’t mean you know its correct address if New Zealand Post's E-Ship software thinks differently!

Richard has helped many modellers work their way through this issue and usually what happens is that once you’ve learned the trick, you won’t have any issues in the future.

We are grateful to all of those who pre-order, obviously that helps the balance sheet of the company and will help us to hire new designers to make more models. Would also like to point out that the free box art print that goes to every pre-order customer is never going to be available for sale. It is solely used as a way of saying thank you to those who trust us with their money before the kitset is released.

I am getting really excited about the buzz you are all contributing to around this model, so thank you!

Of course it WON'T be perfect and many of you will disagree with our colour and marking choices but that’s all part of the fun.

Cheers

Mark Robson
Owner
Kotare Models"